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Bolwell Mio 100cc slow to start in heat and wet weather...

Last post 10-30-2008 01:53 PM by Service@SelectScootas. 10 replies.
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  • 10-28-2008 10:05 AM

    Bolwell Mio 100cc slow to start in heat and wet weather...

    just wondering if this a normal issue or something i should get looked at - only done 250kms on scoot so hasnt had first service yet. it has happened a few times, first when wet weather and yesterday when it was hot weather (over 30 degrees) that my scoot has been hard to start and last night i thought it wasnt going to. is this a common issue or should i get it checked out, having first service done anyway next week... just wondering if there was any experiences of similar things...

    MIO 100cc Sally (in PINK, yes she is PINK)
  • 10-28-2008 10:21 AM In reply to

    Re: Bolwell Mio 100cc slow to start in heat and wet weather...

     Sound like your carby needs a slight adjustment

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  • 10-29-2008 08:01 PM In reply to

    Re: Bolwell Mio 100cc slow to start in heat and wet weather...

    How much throttle are you giving it when you start it?  If the idling is off, then you might find its either starving, or flooding.

    We find with the Zip (another 4-stroke small scoot) that set up correctly you don't need to touch the throttle at all.

  • 10-29-2008 08:51 PM In reply to

    Re: Bolwell Mio 100cc slow to start in heat and wet weather...

     not giving it any throttle, dont usually need to in any other conditions  ... not doing anything different to normal but it didnt seem to want to start. will see what they say at the service i guess...

    MIO 100cc Sally (in PINK, yes she is PINK)
  • 10-29-2008 09:39 PM In reply to

    Re: Bolwell Mio 100cc slow to start in heat and wet weather...

    purplelou:

      will see what they say at the service i guess...

    Scooters love being serviced. The Mio will pur like a grateful kitten afterwards.
    Bought a Vespa GTS250ie; selling a Daelim NS125DLX :
  • 10-29-2008 10:47 PM In reply to

    Re: Bolwell Mio 100cc slow to start in heat and wet weather...

    If the idling is set too low, then give it a bit of throttle when you press the starter and it should start.  If it does, then get it adjusted.  However, idling speed usually gets higher once an engine loosens up, so it could be something else.  Possibly the automatic idle-up switch (often called automatic choke) isn't functioning properly, but unlikely with the Mio.

    What are you doing to get it started when it is misbehaving?

  • 10-30-2008 07:16 AM In reply to

    Re: Bolwell Mio 100cc slow to start in heat and wet weather...

    steve@ace:
    What are you doing to get it started when it is misbehaving?
     

    i just keep pressing the button until it does! (i did check i hadnt left the fuel switch thing under the seat on as i did that the first day i had the bike but i hadnt) not at all mechanically minded so wouldnt have a clue what else to do! even some of those words you used (choke/idling etc) are abit confusing to me!!! sorry but am total newbie at all that stuff...Embarrassed

    MIO 100cc Sally (in PINK, yes she is PINK)
  • 10-30-2008 09:57 AM In reply to

    Re: Bolwell Mio 100cc slow to start in heat and wet weather...

     We have all been newbies at some point Big Smile  Better to admit to what you don't know that to try and bluff it.   Ok, the idle up switch is an electric component attached to your carburettor which provides a bit more fuel when the engine is cold.  This helps ignition.  When the engine warms up, it cuts out (normally noticeable by a drop in the speed of the engine when its idling)  BTW idling is the speed of the engine when no throttle is being used.  If its too fast, you'll see your back wheel spinning round, when its too slow your engine will cut out.  When you start your vehicle at the start of the day it will be cold.  The idle up switch (or choke) assists by providing more fuel.   If you aren't getting enough fuel then it won't start.  You can manually provide more fuel by applying a bit of throttle when you start your scooter, but you run the risk of providing too much and flooding the engine.  Over time, people generally work out how much is needed and will use the same start up process every day for their vehicle. 

    When a new engine is running in, it changes.  As the parts wear, the engine can move more freely.  This normally results in less fuel being required to get in turning over (idling), so the engine speed at idling normally increases as the running in process occurs.  However atmospheric conditions can also play a factor.  Its not actually liquid petrol that combusts, but petrol vapour.  Cold mornings mean less petrol vapour which means less chance of quick combustion, hence more difficult to start on cold days. 

    So, have the days when you've been having trouble been colder?  If you give a little extra throttle, does it help?

  • 10-30-2008 10:21 AM In reply to

    Re: Bolwell Mio 100cc slow to start in heat and wet weather...

    steve@ace:
    So, have the days when you've been having trouble been colder?  If you give a little extra throttle, does it help?

    no they have been warmer and/or wetter. it was a 30+ degree day on monday and it was after work that it wouldnt start. it was still over 30 degrees at 7.30pm...

    the engine does sound like it is idling slightly differently this week compared with when i first got it - so maybe that is something that needs tweaking...

    MIO 100cc Sally (in PINK, yes she is PINK)
  • 10-30-2008 01:03 PM In reply to

    Re: Bolwell Mio 100cc slow to start in heat and wet weather...

     Sorry - not paying attention.  When I finished I read your original post again...

    I'd suggest that given your level of knowledge/confidence that you check with your dealer.  It may simply be a training issue, but get your dealer to have a look too.

  • 10-30-2008 01:53 PM In reply to

    Re: Bolwell Mio 100cc slow to start in heat and wet weather...

     To me it sounds like your tappets( The valves in the top of your motor ) need adjusting. It is very common for a Mio to need this(they dont always need adjusting but seem to bed in quite quickly and require an adjustment at 1st service). So basicly there are little valves which are opened by your cam shaft, the gap between your cam shaft and the top of the valve is what is refered to as valve clearens which I refered to as tappets .

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